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The Catching Fire Podcast

Private Credit is the Next $1.7T Opportunity. Here’s How to Build for It

April 30, 2025 • Bryan Karas

In this episode, Bryan sits down with serial entrepreneur Chris Tolles, co-founder of Transparency Analytics and advisor at Common Crawl, to talk about what really drives innovation, from the explosion of private credit to the invisible data powering AI.

Chris shares wild stories from the trenches: selling a startup to Netscape in 6 weeks, building a $50M media company, and opening a sports bar before diving back into tech. He talks about the future of startups, offers advice on choosing co-founders, and reveals how a tiny nonprofit powers every major LLM today.

If you're building in tech, finance, or AI, don’t miss this one.

Connect with Chris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tolles/

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